Saturday, November 24, 2012

R u a Neptune Type?

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I actually planned to write a post about Saturn, the ruler of my natal chart, but Neptune woke me up last night.  Then for around two or three hours, my head buzzed with information about Neptune types.  Who exactly are the Neptune people? Do they resemble aliens, call themselves Indigo and act like they're more special than everyone else? Some do if they get caught in illusions, delusions of glamour.  But in reality, Neptune types either have one of the following traits in their charts, or multiple traits involving Neptune, Pisces, or the Twelfth House.

You are a Neptune type if you have your natal Sun, Moon or Ascension in Pisces, if you have Pisces on the cusps of an angular house (1st, 4th, 7th or 10th houses) that would include having a Pisces Ascension, you have Sun, Moon, or Neptune in an angular house in Pisces or the Sun, Neptune, or Moon in your Twelfth House.  Other things to consider is if you have a stellium or cluster of planets in Pisces which doesn't include the Moon or Sun or it can.  Anyone born now with Neptune in Pisces and until the end of this transit is a member of a Neptune Type generation despite where their other planets appear in their charts. 

While I cannot go over every possible situation in this short post, we will look at Pisces on the cusps of angular houses, Pisces Moon, Sun, and Neptune in Pisces.  Since Neptune transits last over a decade, the only people now with Neptune in Pisces are the ones born at this time, referred to as Crystal and Rainbow Children, and hopefully, not the lost generation, which is a possibility too.

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Pisces First House & Ascension or Neptune in the First House

These folks resemble mermaids and aquatic species... Okay, so they resemble human beings, but they have a faraway look in their eyes as if they rose out of the sea.  They seem fragile, vulnerable and delicate to others and might even suffer from extreme sensitivities or at least imagine that they do.  They have to work at building confidence in themselves because this doesn't come easy and when life grows difficult, they look for the escape hatch, appearing to swim in two different directions.  Or their souls transcend from their bodies and it appears that nobody is home.  They could live in a Neptune fog having just journeyed from the Twelfth into the First House, but whatever it's going on, they don't appear comfortable in their body or asserting their needs as if everyone should just know telepathically their needs.

The downside these Piscean/Neptune types might struggle with addiction and other escapism or live in a fantasy world.  On the plus side, they came to the planet bearing numerous spiritual and artistic gifts if only they could ground themselves.  Even the ones who seem cold and detached and brimming over with compassion--just look into their Piscean orbs and you'll met their hearts or they will melt yours.  But don't fall for their victim trap.  These folks might seem vulnerable and helpless, but have you ever seen rapids on a river or a tempest at sea?  Their ruler is Neptune, a bit fishy and slippery at times, but powerful nonetheless. Don't let these folks whip any storms (dramas) in your life.  The real glamour is on the stage not off of it, and not playing the role of cheap drama.  If you can't play at Elizabeth Taylor than settle for Mother Theresa and serve the world. That's what Neptune Types choose to do anyway.

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Pisces in the Fourth House or Neptune in the Fourth House

If home is where the heart is, than these types can make their home anywhere in the world, and often do.  Travelers, nomads, musicians, filmmakers, wandering healers, troubadours, and vagabonds all fit here.  If they choose not to travel or live in a cloistered spiritual environment (monastery, convent, temple), they turn their home into a shrine.  If they're not religious then they'll have lots of little furry creatures running around their home and adopt a stray is their daily motto.  They might have a big screen television to watch world cinema or Hollywood classics, and if they're not the television type, then you will find an altar in the corner full of items and icons from a variety of religions and spiritual practices.  Or they might have a music room full of exotic instruments and an aquarium in the background.  They might spend time alone in their home or entertain friends with glamorous parties where the who is who shows up.  You'll find both hermits and socialites in this home.

Pisces in the Seventh House or Neptune in the Seventh House

The urge to merge is the motto of these types, but they tend to live more in a fantasy world when it comes to one-on-one relationships.  Or maybe they swim in two different directions, "yes, I want a relationship with you, but no, I don't."  Their partners might feel like they're riding a seesaw or playing a game of hide and go seek.  A healthy relationship with this type would involve some type of shared spiritual practice such as yoga or meditation or even singing together.  This couple watches movies together or attends concerts or on the downside, they might escape through addiction, dragging each other down with them.

Eventually, for some of these types reality bites and the delusion of glamour ends with a thud and a crash.  The urge to merge ends in bitterness and avoidance unless the Piscean type gets grounded and faces the realities of a one-on-one relationship.  Instead of the urge to merge, they adopt the urge to evolve.  Eventually, he or she meets a more balanced partner while also finding a balance in the relationship between togetherness and independence.  Bobbsy twins are a bore anyway.

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Pisces in the Tenth House or Neptune in the Tenth House

Since I have Neptune in my Tenth House I can speak with authority on this astrological set-up.  Invisible is the key phrase here, invisible to employers, your community, and society at large.  While Steven Forrest delegates Cancerians to the role of the invisible man or woman, I can assure you that the true invisible people have Neptune in their Tenth House or their Sun in the Twelth House.  My Neptune conjuncts my Midheaven and I have noticed the amount of effort I have to put into promoting myself or just blend into the scenery.

Not that I wouldn't recommend blending into the scenery on occasion.  There are times when it's better to observe than to participate.  This becomes a problem when we want to land the perfect job or get people to pay attention to artistic achievements.  For anyone with the Sun or Neptune in the Tenth House consider a healing profession, especially with sound healing or dance therapy or a career in cinema or music.  But find a Leo type to play the role of your publicist or agent.  You'll need someone else shining your light into the world, even if you're more glamorous than a Cadillac.

Pisces in the Twelfth House or Neptune in the Twelfth House (not an angular house, but Pisces Home)

Neptune and Pisces feel at home in the Twelfth House.  The soul that makes it this far has prepared itself to transcend the mundane and turned towards a spiritual mission.  The upside is that this type has mastered meditation and has sage wisdom to share, but they prefer to remain cloistered speaking only to Ascended Masters while forgetting to share what they have learned with others.  And if they haven't reached spiritual heights this time around the astrological wheel, then they're probably dealing with a wicked addiction, mental illness or imprisonment, usually due to a drug addiction.  Saints, martyrs and victims reside here along with fools for love.  Ascension will occur eventually, but some of these types prefer the crooked road to the cosmic elevator.  Either way, they'll reach their destination.

(update on May 27, 2013)

Pisces Moon

I'm so Neptunian that I forgot to add Pisces Moon, Sun, and Ascension in his post.  Oops!

I was born with a Pisces Moon and I have mixed feelings about this Moon. One can grow tired and weary of coming across as fey and ethereal, which are words we use to describe people with Pisces Moon. If they don't feel like a mermaid perched on a rock waiting for Godot or their prince to appear, they focus on their artistic side making movies, choreographing dance theater, or enjoying a career as a dancer, or photographer.  These folks also delve into metaphysical and psychology tools, enjoy dream interpretation and most likely because they use these tools to discover themselves.

Since the Moon rules emotions and feelings, she feels safe and content in Pisces.  However, unlike a Cancer Moon, Pisces Moon natives forget to nurture themselves unless they practice yoga or meditation where they physically ground themselves.  These folks can literally feel like they are an invisible blob floating around and forget that they have a human body.  Therefore, it is easy to abuse the body with substances and other addictions.  I have also noticed with some Pisces Moon and Sun natives that these people gain weight easily, and not because of an addiction to food.  They use the extra baggage as a shield to protect themselves from other people's vibes, especially if they experience physical abuse as a child or domestic abuse as an adult.

Some type of therapy is a requirement for Pisces Moon, but even a life coach could help these people to ground themselves and learn some practical life skills.  Pisces Moon people have a tendency to find others to take care of them, then they rebel against these caretakers.  If you have a Pisces Moon and you fall into this tendency, hire a life coach to kick your butt into shape.  You are stronger than you think.

Pisces Sun

These folks are much stronger with their identity than Pisces Moon people.  However, if they don't balance the polarity with Virgo practicality, they are gullible and easily preyed upon.  Under the Pisces Sun you can find everyone from a powerful energy healer, to a phenomenal performing artist or filmmaker, to a con artist. You will find the gypsy types who never succeed in life because all their dreams are half baked and they lose interest in a dream before the launching day appears.

Pisces Sun people show up in hospitals as healers and as patients (usually mental patients) and Pisces-Neptune also associates itself with prisons and other confining situations.  However, even if a Pisces Sun person ends up in these situations, redemption on a grand scale is possible and so is spiritual enlightenment.  Remember that Pisces represents the endpoint of the Zodiac culminating in either transcendence or Tom foolery in which they return to the sign of Aries and travel through the 12 signs another round.

You will find spiritual gurus with Pisces Sun and spirituality of one kind or another plays a role in a Pisces Sun person's life, even if they don't discover religion until joining an AA group as they recover from a wicked addiction.  These people represent life-changers for others because of their own experiences that brings them wisdom and compassion.  In fact, it's possible that Pisces Sun or Moon are the most compassionate folks in the Zodiac.

Pisces Ascension

This is the same as having Pisces on the cusps of the First House or Neptune near any AC in the First House.  The soul has left the 12th House (also a Neptune experience) where they felt like an outsider of sorts with Aquarius ruling their 12th House.  Now, they have moved from a detached Air Sign into a deeply emotional water sign.  These folks are dreamy and sometimes unrealistic. They might either have grandiose thoughts about themselves or just the opposite and feel that they are invisible.

Pisces AC most noticeable feature are their feet (either too large or too small) and they experience problems with their feet.  They might entertain a shoe or foot fetish (this is also true for Pisces Sun natives).  I have a vision of ballerinas for my description of this ascension sign or just someone with a petite frame that seems fey and delicate (in either a man or a woman).  Other astrologers have commented on the eyes of Pisces Ascendent people--the eyes are large and otherworldly.  However, Leo's and Capricorns also have noticeable eyes and so do Pisces Sun and Moon natives.  Sometimes their eyes are in striking colors or resemble fish eyes.

Personally, I have known few people with Pisces AC, and tons of people with Pisces Sun and Moon so I'm unable to comment beyond what you'll find in astrology books.

To conclude this article, if you have a Pisces Sun, Moon, AC, or the Moon or Sun in Pisces falling in an angular or 12th House, or if you have several planets in Pisces forming a stellium, then you are a Neptune Type.


  1. I just found your blog!
    I am a Quadruple Pisces with all my 3 Pisces planets (Sun conj. Moon, plus Mercury conj. Asc.) in my 12th house. Also, in my 12th house is Mars (late Aquarius) conj. my early Pisces Sun/Moon. Presently, I'm experiencing Neptune's progress over my Moon!!

  2. Wow! I wonder what this is like with so much Neptune. My guess is that you are spiritual and super creative. Do you work in dance, music or cinema? How do you apply this strong Neptune-Pisces energy? And how were you able to access the planets in your 12th House since that's a bit of a challenge for us to access 12th House planets.

    Thanks for sharing.

    1. Since all of my Pisces is deposited by Uranus (Aquarius on my 12th cusp, and Uranus is in Gemini in my 3rd hse), my access to all the enormous watery depth of my Pisces has been first thru my intelligence, verbal, and sentient. Then, I could let it resonate at its own feeling-level.
      But no-shit!! It's been a PROCESS! I'm blessed with the trine from Scorpio Jupiter (8th hse) to my Mercury conj. Asc. in Pisces. It's been my experience that once I can "verbalize" (Merc) a need or problem, the answer "arrives" - Jupiter/8th hse, (others) to help me. I express all the Pisces thru healing, listening, helping wherever I'm drawn. I raised my many siblings and my own 2 stellar children by my self as a single parent.
      I write; I photograph; I was born into the Broadway theatre - my parents were actors in all the musical hits of the "Golden Age Of Broadway", so that was a good training ground for a multiple Pisces!! I'm a writer, a photographer, etc...
      Mostly, I'm a FRIEND...that's how I like to feel special, just a friend to all. My data is: Feb. 21, 1947 @ 7:43 am, NYC, NY.

  3. Thanks for sharing your Pisces experiences, Lucinda. I enjoy hearing real life stories of the planets and aspects in a natal chart. Normally, I'm studying abstract charts or charts of famous people with biographies in mind. However, it's a blessing when someone contacts me with real life experiences based on his or her chart.

    I imagine Broadway is 5th House, but with the dance and singing, there is the Pisces influence.

  4. Neptune in 10 conjunct sag midheaven. Im a published songwriter, very intuitive tarot reader and artist, fashion designer. Though ive had success i think ive had the issue of enjoying my privacy so much that it may be hindering my success. I like laying low but it doesn't match lifestyle or career path. Im also born on the 16th 7 day (ruled by neptune) which makes me enjoy privacy. However i have learned that working alone gives me much power and greater creative and psychic ability. Learning when to come out into the open is important to my success.

  5. You must have been born between 1970 and 1984 to have Neptune in Sagittarius. That is an expansive sign for a Neptune transit. Sagittarius is also a lucky or fortunate sign so you could have huge success, as long as you bring in practical Virgo energy into the mix. Neptune is definitely a player in your life.